HIGHLIGHTS OF JANUARY'S CLUB MEETING

[bean1968]

Thanks to everyone who showed up to the meeting tonight. Here are some of the highlights from our first meeting of the season.

Things discussed were

The new board thanked the previous board and volunteers for a great Holiday Classic and for there work last year.

The discussion board conduct and proper conduct at the track.

Safety of Karts, drivers Pre and Post Tech: The club was informed that pre-tech for all karts racing at AKA will be subject to the same tech. All karts makes and models must be wire tied. All weights must be white and have the kart number on them.
Helmets must be SNELL rated 2010

This will all be updated in the rule book that will be handed out at the 1st race. We will give all racers and race teams a two race grace period to make sure that they are properly equipped and all tie wire and weights are properly installed. (Ted Williams informed everyone that he would supply nuts that are pre drilled for safety wire.)

We discussed the Outlaw Box Stock class and we are going to enforce clone box stock or Predator box stock. The Predator will weigh 30 pounds heavier than the Clone. All engines will be stock except for Jetting, and Flywheel. We will have the actual specs that we will post tech and have them posted in the rule book and post them on the website in the next few days.

We discussed the 2 race throw away rule this season. The rule will be you can throw away any two races this season unless it is a DQ. You cannot throw away a DQ.

Also discussed was some old school karts possibly coming out and racing. Scott Batton brought this up before the board and will provide a written proposal to the board to discuss.

We discussed about having people volunteer to help at the track. That the club needs people from all classes to volunteer to help at the track. If anyone knows of anyone who would like to help out and Volunteer at the track please let us know. We could use some help......
Need are: 
Race Director
Flagman
Corner workers
Scale Master
Scorers
4 cycle tech

We discussed cleaning up after your self and making sure you empty your trash cans and return them before you leave the track.

Over all it was a very good meeting. I was great to see such a good turn out. I look forward to working with all of you this season.

Thanks
Mike Most

[bean1968]

OK all there is a change to the Outlaw box stock class. All box stock clone motor and Predator motor will run IKF Clone and Predator rules so that all karts can run all over the country with that motor. I will get the specs for everyone by Monday. But everyone can get on line at IKF and get the rules. This way everyone can go run at other places and other states. Any other questions please call me.

Thanks
Mike Most

[chigh]

Mike, I'd like to point out that the membership voted in November to run these IKF engine rules with the following local options applied:
1. Starters may be electric or pull start
2. Clutches may be disk or drum style
The weight agreed upon were Clone 250# Predator 280# These have not changed, have they?

[newage]

I think they are going have a meeting, and it sounds like they will be seperating the classes. Clone per ikf. And box stock preditor

[chigh]

I will wait to hear from Mike so that all the rules updates can be correct in the new rule book.

[outlawaunt]

This is what we voted on at the AKA meeting. We never voted on a $129 Predator running with a $900 clone motor.  We voted on BOX STOCK. Looks to me like people are taking things into their own hands and interpreting rules

[chigh]

Corrie, I am not being argumentative with you, but at no time did AKA vote on how much people can spend on engines. All the clone engines have had some work done on them, ie Flywheels. springs. I admit I know nothing about the predator other than they have a bit more horsepower. When engines were discussed during one of the first meetings, the starters and clutches were discussed, as well as weights between the Clone and Predator engines. A proposal was made by Jeff to vote on using only pull starters and drum clutches. These proposals were voted on and defeated by the members voting at the general membership meeting. These are local options to the Clone Engine rules. I have cut and pasted the IKF rules from the rule book update so that all can see. In my opinion, I feel that if there is an objection to running these clone engine rules, all owners in the Outlaw Box Stock class should discuss these rules and if no agreement can be reached, then perhaps there should be 2 classes.

I really think the Outlaw juniors will be one of our biggest classes this year and hopefully things can work out so the kids can have fun racing together.

IKF Rule Update – Section 722 (A COMPLETE RE-WRITING OF RULES)

722 STOCK INTERNATIONAL CLASS ENGINES

These rules describe the specifications of Clone Class Engines. All parts must be factory production parts unless otherwise specified. No machining or alteration of parts is permitted unless specifically noted. All parts are subject to be compared to known stock parts. No reading in between the lines. If it is not in the rules, then it must remain stock.

722.1 Clutches: Any dry clutch is allowed, applies to all classes
722.2 Fuel: 87 Octane pump gasoline only.
722.3 Fuel Tank: Must be floor mounted.
722.4 Carburetor: Huayi or Ruxing type carb only. Choke assembly must be in place and functional.
722.4.1 Venturi: 0.615" No-Go
722.4.2 Throttle Bore: 0.751" No-Go
722.4.3 Emulsion Tube: Must remain stock. 0.066" No-Go Minimum length 1.092
722.4.4 Low Speed Idle Jet: Non Tech
722.4.5 Main Jet: 0.042 No-Go
722.4.6 Throttle Shaft: Minimum Diameter 0.115"
722.4.7 Butterfly: Minimum Thickness 0.037
722.4.8 Black Phenolic Insulator Plate: Must be in place between carb and block. Plate hole is non-tech, but must maintain OEM shape. Fuel bleed off slot must be unaltered. OEM thickness must be maintained at .257 minimum
722.4.9 Clone Restrictors:
722.4.9.1 Junior I one hole 0.425 No-Go ARC green
722.4.9.2 Junior II one hole 0.550 No-Go ARC blue
722.5 Fuel Pump: Any pulsed type fuel pump is allowed. Fuel pump must be pulsed from the valve cover, crankcase or side cover.
722.6 Air Filter: Any air filter allowed
722.7 Air Filter Adapter: Maximum Length 1.375"
722.8 Engine Block and Side Cover
722.8.1 Block: Decking of the block is permitted
722.8.2 Crankshaft: OEM crankshaft only, no modifications. Journal diameter 1.168” min. 1.180” max.
722.8.2.1 Governor: Governor and governor components are non tech. Removal of governor drive is allowed
722.8.3 Connecting Rod: OEM connecting rod only. OEM rod bolts only. Honing is allowed but must maintain factory defined edge. New Stock Performance cast rod allowed.
722.8.4 Wrist Pin: Overall Length 2.100” minimum, inside diameter .550” maximum
722.8.5 Bore: Maximum Bore 2.685"
722.8.6 Stroke: Maximum Stroke 2.133” +/- 0.010. Push piston down to take up rod play. Check stroke from BDC to TDC.
722.8.7 Side Cover: Side cover must be OEM, no machining allowed. Gaskets must be OEM configuration and are non tech. Sealer may be used.
722.9 Piston and Rings:
722.9.1 Piston: Piston must be unaltered OEM only. Standard bore is 2.685" maximum. Arrow on top of piston must be pointed toward valves / lifters
722.9.1.1 Piston Pop Out: No piston pop-out is allowed. No tolerance is allowed.
722.9.2 Piston Rings: Top ring and middle ring .115” max. width, 0.060 max thickness. Piston rings must be self-supporting in cylinder bore. Oil ring assembly must be self-supporting in cylinder bore when checked installed on piston with connecting rod attached. Rings must be in one piece (unbroken) when presented for tech. Filing of ring end gaps permitted with max Ring end gap of .040”
722.10 Cylinder Head: Must be OEM castings only. Porting and/or grinding not permitted.
722.10.1 CCV: Minimum combustion chamber volume when mounted on engine @ TDC is 26.5 cc’s. Head gasket required, but thickness is non-tech and can be either steel or aluminum. Measurement to be checked at TDC with LAD Tool and must be plum front to back and side to side before submitting fluid.
722.10.2 Head Gasket: Head gasket required, but thickness is non-tech and can be fiber, steel or aluminum. 2 gaskets permitted, to maintain a minimum 26.5cc chamber volume. Sealer may be used on head gasket.
722.10.3 Valve Depth Check: Depth check between the valves in any direction cannot vary more than 0.005”
722.10.4 Valve Seats: Valve seats are of 3 angles, 45 degree face angle with top relief of 30 degrees and bottom relief of 60 degrees. Outside face of valve seat cannot be below floor of combustion chamber.
722.10.5 Inside Diameter of valve seats: Intake = 0.897” maximum, Exhaust = 0.862” maximum .
722.11 Valves: Steel or Stainless steel valves with 45 degree seat angle only are acceptable. No lightening, polishing, grinding or other alterations are allowed. Only OEM or Nitrated Valves are allowed in this class. Upper seals optional, seals may be used on both intake and exhaust, lash cap on exhaust valve only.
722.11.1.1 Intake Outside Diameter: 0.980” minimum,
722.11.1.2 Exhaust Outside Diameter: 0.940” minimum,
722.11.1.3 Stem Diameter: 0.213” minimum
722.11.1.4 Weight: 21 grams minimum
722.12 Valve Springs: Springs must be made of a magnetic material. Number of coils: 4
722.12.1.1 Maximum Length: 1.250”
722.12.1.2 Maximum Outside Diameter: 0.790”
722.12.1.3 Maximum Inside Diameter: 0.650”
722.12.1.4 Maximum Coil Diameter: 0.0715”,
722.12.1.5 Installed Height: 0.815”. Spring shims allowed but must maintain 0.815” installed height,
722.12.1.6 Maximum spring pressure: 10.8 lbs. at .850” and 18 lbs. at .650”
722.12.1.7 Intake Retainer: Minimum thickness 0.225”
722.12.1.8 Exhaust Retainer: Minimum thickness 0.245”
722.13 Rocker Arms: OEM 1:1 ratio steel rocker arms only. Must be OEM rockers.
722.14 Lifters: OEM lifters only
722.15 Camshaft: Stock appearing camshaft cores only with the ez-spin assembly unaltered and in stock condition.
722.15.1 Cam lobe base circle diameter: 0.860” - 0.875” (taken from pushrod)
722.15.2 Duration (taken from pushrod):
722.15.2.1 Intake: 217 - 222 degrees at 0.050” lift, 84/88 degrees at 0.200 lift
722.15.2.2 Exhaust: 220 – 224 degrees at 0.050” lift, 95/99 degrees at 0.200 lift
722.15.2.3 Intake lift at pushrod: 0.215” - 0.225”
722.15.2.4 Exhaust lift at pushrod: 0.222” - 0.232”
722.15.2.5 Intake lift at retainer: 0.238” maximum
722.15.2.6 Exhaust lift at retainer: 0.242” maximum
NOTE: Lift is measured off top of retainer at zero lash.
722.16 Timing Gear: OEM factory timing gear mandatory and must be installed in original location.
722.17 Ignition Coil: Ignition coil must be OEM for all classes, timing is non tech
722.18 Flywheel: Flywheel must be a minimum weight 3.3 lbs. No modification or removal of fins is allowed.
722.18.1 Legal Flywheels:
722.18.1.1 Raceseng RSP-13-075 & 077 Rev Wheel F-S1
722.18.1.2 ARC-6618 and ARC-6619
722.18.1.3 DYNO PVL Boxstock Flywheel
722.18.1.4 King Wheel Billet Steel DJ-168F-16200-A
722.18.1.5 King Billet Aluminum Slipstream
722.19 Exhaust: Multi-stage pipes allowed. Looped pipes (360 degree turns) are not allowed. Pipe (including silencer) cannot extend past rear bumper. Header wrap required for safety reasons. Gasket and/or silicone allowed to seal header pipe to head. Allen bolts permitted on header to head. Pipes must be double nutted or safety wired on at least one stud or bolt
722.19.1 Maximum length: 24” measured thru the inside of the pipe with .250 wide tape measure. Remove silencer and pull tape measure tight, if any portion of the length of the pipe is below 24” – pipe is legal.
722.19.2 Silencer: RLV 4104.or RLV B91 is mandatory with all baffle plates inside and as supplied by manufacturer. Baffle holes .1285” max. Silencer must be supported by clamped on brace.
722.20 Starter: Pull starter must be present and remain stock, angle of installation is non tech. Color and finish of blower housing, valve cover and all sheet metal is non tech.
722.21 Oil Catch Can: Engine oil recovery system required

[imstopmech]

As I was unable to voice my thoughts at the meeting due to out of town..please allow me to print it here ..the Outlaw Karts have proven to be the fastest growing form of racing at A.K.A. Our clubs Outlaw karts numbers are going to nearly double in karts in the next 2 races. That's great stuff ! The new handlers( parents ) and drivers are going to be competitive right away due to them being A.K.A. racers currently and or P.K.R.A. racers or quartermidget racers with alot of driving experience. These racers are looking to be putting a quality kart on the track to achieve long engine life and pride of ownership . Here's a thought ...I believe the club would benefit by setting a date ( possibly March or April 2015)for a new class to be formed that other clubs/race promoters may consider...a briggs 206 factory sealed engine class...yes factory sealed! Maybe only a few racers would convert right away but as owners current engines wear out they could join as they see the engine spec. issues go away and it help maintain our club in peace and trust of each other.With no engine tech. required it further helps the club as no post-tech. person is needed. Simply pre-tech and scales after races. Until then it's obvious the LESS RELIABLE, under powered Predators just don't win any longer with the clones abilities that professional engine builders can legitimately perform ...they don't at other tracks eather from my calls around the country. The few owners of Predators currently could probably find quality used clone motors and join in our fast,action packed,reliable,safe racing as I'm sure we would help locate engines. The clones put on a show !! The drivers are learning !! Let's continue to advance the karts NOT take them down. As people elsewhere see our positive and competitive racing going on they'll be excited to travel and join us. Please respond to my thoughts positively eather here or call me please ..Thanks and happy racing to all ! Gary Jonathon's grandpa..623-910 -3762 ...F.Y.I. Mike you posts are informative and appreciated.

[justfast]

I don't remember voting on the engines. All I seen to vote on was clutch and starter.

[chigh]

You are right Nathan. There was no vote on engines. The committee that met to form this class at AKA agreed on clone and predator engines. I guess the assumption was a clone would follow clone rules. Predator would be 30 pounds more I personally don't see the need for those who already have engines to have to spend more money to get another one for kids to race. Sorry Gary, adding another engine to the mix, in my opinion only complicates things more. And will only make the persons selling the L206 engines happy. We have a good group of competitors now, why split them into 2-3 classes?

[newage]

Per current but some what vaig rules, it says box stock perditor or clone with modifications to carberator to make it run correctly, and 10.8 springs. Badicly what clone was in the beginning. Now you have box stock pretitors running again a clone that has had carb work,head milled, and stainless steel valves, and a cam. But yet the prefitors are still stock out of the box. Current racers preditors out number clones. At the last meeting it was discussed and for the best interest of the club and class it was decided that it would be easer to have the clones put a stock cam in there motors, then to have the prefitors build there motors that would be more exspencive. Plus there is talk about uniformity to the 206 latter this year or next. We are looking at how to keep the class afortible and easy to get into. You know back when you bout a 100.00 motor and put a jet and pipe on it and went racing. Then the rules started to change and they split the class up and now look at how many we have. I believe the cheep the better for the class and club.

[newage]

Stock clone cam, my cost is 5.00. Current clone canm is 25.00-49.00

[imstopmech]

Will someone please inform me of any form of racing that restricts the amount of money spent on equipment. Bmx -no , moto-cross -no, quarter midgets-no, nascar-no, r.c. cars -no ! I can't think of any...2 classes may be the best answer till my hopes of a FACTORY SEALED engine such as the previously mentioned briggs 206 class can unite us all and any new karts that join in the future. They ask about engine and these current problems don't exist for them we just give them a contact for briggs and Stratton.

[joe61]

As a dad that probably will be racing a cage kart when my son is old enough I think the L206 would be the perfect engine. The L206 is working out great next door at PKRA. The club just needs to pick one engine and have tech.

[newage]

If the preditor is allowed to mill the head and run a bigger can like the ikf clone the the preditor would be faster. But it would cost moe money.